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Michael Dracon
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Post by Michael Dracon »

Even worst. It'll take about half a year before the Supersearch catagories will finally be doing what the new catagory system says it does. Until then porn will be amongst the Main catagory results...

But why the **** is the Music gone?? There was not need at all to merge this with any other group. I can still stay split off in the new catagory system.

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Post by Spiril »

Many users searched all categories when looking for stuff related to a music band, since the MP3s were located under audio, various band clips/videos/movs were located under the general category and pics/scans/covers etc. were located under the picture category.
Now it only takes a single search to get all the stuff.

But a SS subfilter system is on the todo. When it's ready, it will be easy to filter out "noise" articles when you want to search for specific article types. MP3s for example.
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Post by Dr. Grinch »

Spiril wrote:
But a SS subfilter system is on the todo. When it's ready, it will be easy to filter out "noise" articles when you want to search for specific article types. MP3s for example.
Cool, because in flipping back and forth between the Audio and "General" options in a search for something I'm getting very different results, that don't always overlap. My concern here is that the General search bucket may be missing things.

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Post by Felix T Cat »

I will say that you can add me to the "against" list. And it's for the same reason I was the last time you did this stuff (edited from 4 letter word).

Say I am looking for albums from 2007, with the "old" system I could go to the music category and type 2007 in the search box for say the past 60 days (my news server retention time). In most cases I would get a good number of results.

NOW with the combined search system if I search for 2007 I will hit the "too many results returned" BS in the general category.

This said I did learn the last time that I could do a 2007 groups:MP3 search (or something along those lines) and it would filter.

Either way I can't believe that you went and did this again after the riot of shoot you got the last time.
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Post by Spiril »

Felix T Cat,

You missed the part about the upcoming subfilters?
Felix T Cat wrote:Say I am looking for albums from 2007, with the "old" system I could go to the music category and type 2007 in the search box for say the past 60 days (my news server retention time).
Try to do an audio search for "2007" with max days set to 20 and you run into the "too many results" error. You have to be more specific when searching.
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Btw, pls read the forum policy regarding the language used in the forums. It's fine that you don't agree on everything that is changed in NL/SS, and the feedback is appreciated, but keep your postings clean tone or they will be deleted.
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Post by Felix T Cat »

I did not miss the part about sub filters. I just don't agree with the change "before" you institute the sub filters. It's a cart before the horse thing IMO.

Again, it's your program, you will do what you want and the rest of us will adapt. I really just wish that one time you would announce this BEFORE the change rather then let everyone get pop up messages after the fact.

This is the second time you have combined groups to eliminate the music category (which I still swear has more to do with RIAA then anything else but again IMO). I don't really mind so much that you are trying to eliminate the music category as more the way you handle doing it.

At the end of the day I subscribe to search and will continue to, I only wish that you would be more upfront with the changes you institute rather then reactive when we start getting pop up messages. I think its a fair request but again, this is the second time I have been on the "combined groups" end. I hope the new filters come soon.

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Post by atomicjew »

I dont wish to get into a debate on semantics, but when something is "merged" you need only look in fewer places, not more. The mp3 category has been split by date, only the recent articles have been merged. The older mp3 index could be combined under main, I see no reason for it not to be as it generally had no erotica.

My hope is that this means the 64-bit version of SS is about to come online, that would regenerate the indexes (do a true "merge") and allow more filters and categories.
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Felix T Cat
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Post by Felix T Cat »

I am up for the fewer places to search as long as there is an "effective" way to sort though the remaining group. With the very large amount of newsgroups the Newsleecher SS limit is about to become the limiting factor if there are not effective filters / we all become search field experts.

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Post by Michael Dracon »

Spiril wrote:Felix T Cat,

You missed the part about the upcoming subfilters?
Felix T Cat wrote:Say I am looking for albums from 2007, with the "old" system I could go to the music category and type 2007 in the search box for say the past 60 days (my news server retention time).
Try to do an audio search for "2007" with max days set to 20 and you run into the "too many results" error. You have to be more specific when searching.

This is actually one of the biggest problems of the merge. Sure you can set the max days to 20, but how would you then be able to find stuff that's older?

I've got Giganews, so for me it's going to be even more difficult to get proper results with the 160+ days they currently have.

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Post by Smudge »

Michael Dracon wrote:This is actually one of the biggest problems of the merge. Sure you can set the max days to 20, but how would you then be able to find stuff that's older?

I've got Giganews, so for me it's going to be even more difficult to get proper results with the 160+ days they currently have.
Use both the Min and Max day settings to search a specific range.
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I hope these sub filters appear soon, my renewal is due in 3 weeks, and I wont renew without the ability to search for MP3s.

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Post by Smudge »

Why can't you just add mp3 to your search parameters until the subfilters are available?
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Post by terrestrial »

I also think this is a mistake! Merging everything in to one db is not a problem but removing the music button is. You need those predefined filters. And it needs to be simple and easy! Whatever spiral is up to..he will never be able to eliminate the use of those catagory buttons for several reasons.

Alot of music/porn is posted as RAR files.. so if you needed to find music... you were already obligated to search the general catagory as well. The porn catagorie is of no use because alot of porn is already posted in the dump groups which are probabyl indexed under general.

I'm not against one big general catagory.. but you need the sub catagory's too.. try finding something 100 days back.. like many people mentioned there are too many search results. Ofcourse it is possible to finter but this will only complicate things.

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Post by dekket »

I'm not exactly loving this...

It begs the question: Why does google have categories such as pictures, video, news, etc?

Categories are there for a very good reason.
I'm not against a porn category, but removing music is just redicilous... Besides, it's not an immediate change so I'll have to be searching in two categories for a long time in order to get all possible results.
If it was changed over-night it'd be a differen thing.

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