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Possible to disable keep connection alive for single server

Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2005 4:24 pm
by doppler
My home ISP server does not like the keep connection alive.
It errors and needs to be reset or paused.

Is it possible to diable the keep alive for just one server in
my bots connections? My pay-for-it sever works fine.

Posted: Sat Apr 02, 2005 2:00 am
by Destroyer
AFAIK you cant do it on the current newsleecher im afraid

Posted: Sat Apr 02, 2005 3:14 am
by Lips
Me1432 wrote:AFAIK you cant do it on the current newsleecher im afraid
Yup. The connection options (settings) are on a global (server) basis, not on a per server level.

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Posted: Sat Apr 02, 2005 5:07 am
by techfuzz
A possible workaround for the time being until something could be added. You might try disabling the server when you're not actively using it to prevent stay-alives from being sent.

techfuzz

Posted: Sat Apr 02, 2005 5:19 am
by doppler
techfuzz wrote:A possible workaround for the time being until something could be added. You might try disabling the server when you're not actively using it to prevent stay-alives from being sent.

techfuzz
Which is extactly what I have to do. Unfortunately my home ISP
(the bad acting one) gets headers faster than the pay-server. So
I have to pause and resume during header loading. Very problematic
at the least.

Posted: Sat Apr 02, 2005 5:32 am
by Lips
doppler wrote:
techfuzz wrote:A possible workaround for the time being until something could be added. You might try disabling the server when you're not actively using it to prevent stay-alives from being sent.

techfuzz
Which is extactly what I have to do. Unfortunately my home ISP
(the bad acting one) gets headers faster than the pay-server. So
I have to pause and resume during header loading. Very problematic
at the least.
Sorry, I don't understand. Are you saying that while you are getting headers from your ISP the server times-out and errors? Or are you getting headers from more than 1 server? If so, could you not just get the headers from your pay server, which should have much better completion (or maybe it doesn't?), even if it is slower than your ISP?

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Lips

exactly

Posted: Sat Apr 02, 2005 1:37 pm
by doppler
Lips wrote:Sorry, I don't understand. Are you saying that while you are getting headers from your ISP the server times-out and errors? Or are you getting headers from more than 1 server? If so, could you not just get the headers from your pay server, which should have much better completion (or maybe it doesn't?), even if it is slower than your ISP?

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Lips
Headers from two servers. A pay-server and home ISP server. The
home server is faster downloading headers than the pay. But when
the pay-server "mind farts"(1) mid-stream and takes longer. The home
server gets a keep-alive toggle and errors. Pay server catches up
and NL continues to next group. But the home ISP server is now
"errored" and doesn't get any more new headers.

I need the home server to fill-in-the-blanks, because usenetserver.com
has been having problems with completes. So it's the back-fills that make
my life easier.

(1) George Carlin

Re: exactly

Posted: Sat Apr 02, 2005 4:38 pm
by Lips
doppler wrote:I need the home server to fill-in-the-blanks, because usenetserver.com has been having problems with completes. So it's the back-fills that make my life easier.
I am all for the ability to set connection options at the individual server level. As you already know, NL cannot set "keep alive" for the server.
Ok, that said.....

How long have you had to use your ISP for headers? If this has been a very recent development I can understand if you are waiting to see if the problem gets fixed in the very near future. If you believe your NSP has been unreliable, this may be a good time to find a more reliable NSP. You might even find a free trial account. If it's important to you and a trial account isn't listed you can always ask the NSP if they will provide one (you may or may not get one). Using a relialable NSP and eliminating the need for using 2 servers (both with problems) for headers, well, this will make your life easier.

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Lips

Right now Usenetserver.com is lessor of all evils

Posted: Sat Apr 02, 2005 7:30 pm
by doppler
Usenetserver is having problems. Some of it they brought upon
themselves. They expanded to quickly, and had hardware failures.
Then they reached, software untested limits in the server software.

I have been to other services. The more reliable services are way
over priced, or very byte limited. I can work around and wait for
usenetserver to resolve thier problems. They aways do. But then
they get stupid and expand again. Repeat all problems again-again.

I would rather get what I want. Then to lose all I tried to get after
the other guy, re-initialized the group. They say sorry all previous
content is lost, we had to restart the headers in group (fill-in-the-blank).

Right now the boneless group at 6M+ headers is the worst group out
there. I don't know of any provider that can retension more than 30
days. Or eventually not get corrupted.

Re: Right now Usenetserver.com is lessor of all evils

Posted: Sat Apr 02, 2005 7:35 pm
by dwazegek
doppler wrote:Right now the boneless group at 6M+ headers is the worst group out there. I don't know of any provider that can retension more than 30 days. Or eventually not get corrupted.
Giganews ;)
And I'm pretty sure a.b.nl is worse than boneless.
doppler wrote:I have been to other services. The more reliable services are way over priced, or very byte limited.
Maybe newshosting is what you're looking for, they're in the same price range as usenetserver, have longer retention, and afaik don't have that many problems.

Re: Right now Usenetserver.com is lessor of all evils

Posted: Sat Apr 02, 2005 9:47 pm
by Lips
dwazegek wrote:
doppler wrote:Right now the boneless group at 6M+ headers is the worst group out there. I don't know of any provider that can retension more than 30 days. Or eventually not get corrupted.
Giganews ;)
And I'm pretty sure a.b.nl is worse than boneless.
doppler wrote:I have been to other services. The more reliable services are way over priced, or very byte limited.
Maybe newshosting is what you're looking for, they're in the same price range as usenetserver, have longer retention, and afaik don't have that many problems.
Yes, that's what I hear about NH. Giganews is more expensive, but they are always worth considering for their reliablity, completeness, and retention.

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Lips